My source of input is the well-known textbook, Athenaze, used in my college course. I even have Luigi Miraglia’s Italian version now, praised for. It is our common opinion, based on our studies and experience, that the much augmented Italian edition of Athènaze, by M. Balme, G. Lawall. The Italian Athenaze has no exercise keys. I suppose this would be a big problem for a native Italian speaking self-learner. For my purposes.

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Reading Greek or Athenaze? I’m looking into teaching myself a little Classical Greek and these are the two textbook series I know of. Reading Greek is quite well known, but Athenaze was mentioned to me by my Latin teacher as a good place to start. I already have experience with the Classics and language-learning, so self-taught should be easier than if I was coming without any of the technical language-y knowledge.

Is there anyone who has experience of both series who could let me know what differences, if any, there are between them? I’m currently using the “Reading Latin” books. I would recommend Introduction to Greek by Cynthia Shelmerdine. Here it is if you’re interested: There is also this book: I haven’t personally used this one, but a couple professors have recommended it.

I didn’t like how Athenaze, and other book, don’t introduce principal parts all at once. You have to go back and fill in blanks in your memory. A late comment, but I’m wondering, do you know how Shelmerdine’s Introduction to Greek compares to her revised Greek for Beginner’s? I’m using the latter one as it was the assigned text for her class at Austin, which my bf took. It’s a great book – makes me cry when comparing it to the absolute insanity that is Athenaze.

Our school had the choice between two: We chose the latter because it is faster to progress through, but Athenaze is supposed to be more enjoyable.


Reading Greek is possibly better if you are self-taught, however. It comes with several complimentary books which could really help you. It is a bit more complex though. With no prior knowledge of Greek, I would suggest looking at the first two. Another book you could consider is Thrasymachuswhich is fun to read although slightly strange and perhaps not as logically laid out as the others. I’m going to self-teach and get the independent student’s guide with the two core Reading Greek books if I get that.

I’ve looked around and got that message of being steeper, but I’m thinking that because I have a fairly good grasp of Latin, I might be ok to jump straight in. It is however a larger cost than just getting Athenazebut I think that seems more aligned for classrooms than individual from the previews on amazon. Between the two of them I would prefer Athenaze.

Even better if you order the Italian version of it. Also do you want to hear about other textbooks, or just looking for an opinion on these two in particular? I did German and French at school as we all did, but I’ve got back into languages with Latin. I tend to prefer reading texts, even if they’re just stories written for the book, and using those to learn grammar and vocab. I’m leaning to Reading Greek because the preview chapter on Amazon shows a lot of that I thought.

Both RG and Athenaze present themselves as “read texts” and then inductively work out grammar combined with explicit grammar instruction. Thrasymachus is good but can be hard to find, it is much more reading, much less explicit grammar instruction.

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There aren’t many other good reading-based options, the other contenders on the market are more grammar up front options. I’ve read most textbooks on the market, so happy to give you an opinion on any others. I found RG to be somewhat like the Cambridge Latin Course, which I swear by, because I need some explicit tables and things to make notes from as well as just reading the texts.

I know that my local Waterstones has it and I’ll have a flick through at some point. Personally I hated the Reading Greek books.

I found that they skirted around a lot of grammatical concepts rather than explaining them directly, and they don’t list vocabulary by nominative, genitive, but instead by categories eg. I found the grammar was so scattered and diluted throughout the book that I didn’t end up any the kind of large-scale understanding of how Greek operates as a language.


I used the Reading Greek book as a classics undergraduate and when I got italiam grad school, I had to go back and learn it all over again using the Hansen and Quinn before I got that feel for Greek I wanted.

Their intensive Greek course is what I would ahenaze, but it is quite dry at times and might be difficult to stick to for self-teaching. It’s also very affordable IIRC. Ah yes, now that you mentioned it, they way they list ‘categories’ in RG is really frustrating. Hansen and Quinn all the way! Way better to help the beginner develop a clear and enduring understanding of how the language works than Athenaze.

So, you want to know about the Italian Athenaze?

It’s one of the few textbooks I’m not familiar with. It’s very good in a no bones about it kind of way. It rapidly introduces you to athemaze concepts, doesn’t hold your hand, and works them over italiqn your mind chapter by chapter.

My qualms are small but as follows:. Hansen and Quinn is grammar-translation done very well. Detailed, clear, lots of practice. Too much detail, really, for my tastes. I think it’s pretty similar to Mastronarde in approach, but I’ve only looked at a few chapters of either. Based on my again limited itxlian, that sounds right. Athenaze will walk you into Ancient Greek a bit more gently than other texts, which might be useful for independent study. It’s how I got into Ancient Greek also via independent study.

It’s a bit light on some of the grammar, but as you get through books I and II you can supplement your grammar with Smythe. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Log in or sign up in seconds. Submit a new link. Submit a new text post. Philologic Logeion Other related subreddits: Welcome to Reddit, the front page of the internet. Become a Redditor and subscribe to one of italiam of communities.

AncientGreek submitted 4 years ago itslian generalscruff. Want to add to the discussion? I’m leaning to Reading Greek because the preview chapter on Amazon shows a lot of that I thought I’d not really heard of any others, but I’m open to suggestions. My qualms are small but as follows: If you’re familiar with Ecce Romani as a Latin student, you’ll like Athenaze.